Two-Spool Sewing Machines made by National

Two-Spool Sewing Machines made by National
Two-Spool Sewing Machines made by National

Saturday, March 29, 2014

 Here is a table of information other Two Spool owners sent to me...Thank you All!!! I'll continue to update this as new information arrives.

From the information I've been able to find, National made two spools from 1914-1930, so that may help you get an approximate date for your machine if you go by your serial number.

 Two Spool Characteristics, Differences and Serial Numbers

Serial No. Badge Name Cover Plate Face Plate Can Type Hook Style Base Leg Config Port/Treadle Treadle Irons
H2268 Eldredge Pivot Hort. Guide 1



H2273 Eldredge Pivot
1

Treadle
H3068 Eldredge Pivot Unique 1

Treadle Eldredge
H4881







H5862 Eldredge Pivot Hort. Guide 1 1 Set forward Portable N/A
H6359 Eldredge Pivot Hort. Guide 1 1 Set forward Treadle N/A
H7718 Blank Badge Pivot Hort. Guide 1 1 Set forward Electric head only
H8293 Eldredge Pivot Hort. Guide 1



H9150 National Odd Badge Pivot


Set back Electric
H10474 Eldredge Pivot
3***

Treadle Eldredge
H10859 Western Electric** Pivot Hort. Guide


Portable
H16348 Eldredge Pivot
2

Treadle
H18934 Eldredge Pivot Hort. Guide 2 2 Set back Treadle NSMCO
H22697 Western Electric** Pivot Hort. Guide 2 2 Set back Portable
H25714 Eldredge

3



H28230 Eldredge Slide Hort. Guide 3



H29895 National Slide Hort. Guide 3 2 Set back Treadle
H30681 Eldredge

3



H33627 Western Electric**






H36182 Eldredge

1 replaced



H37757 Eldredge Slide
2



H43535 National

3



H49387 National Slide


Set back Portable
H52469 National

3



H53848 National Slide 45* Guide 3 3 Set back Portable N/A
H54778 National






H56444 Graybar*

3



H57095

45* Guide 3
Set back Table/Motor
H57867 National Slide
3



H60751 National

3



H62429 National






H66255 National Slide 45* Guide

Set back Electric
H68109 National Slide 45* Guide

Set back Unknown
H69497 National Slide 45* Guide 3 3 Set back Treadle NationalSMCO
H70248 National

3




*Graybar badged two-spool machines were made by National and sold through Montgomery Wards
**Western Electric badged two-spool machines were made by National
***This can may not work in this machine. Dorothy has not yet sewed with machine. Probably needs a #1 or #2 style
 

36 comments:

  1. I am so happy to find your blog. I just purchased a National 2-Spool this weekend and am looking for info. My serial# is H57703. Do you have any idea when it was made? Or where else I can look for more info? She isn't in my possession yet, so I'm not able to check out all the other nuances yet, only a few from the pics I took. I'll be checking back and reading more of your info later, when I have her on hand. Thanks for any info or direction you can give.

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  2. Hi Lisa! Welcome to the Two-Spool Club!! You'll love her!! I can't give you an exact date on your machine, but my guess is it would be somewhere around 1925's due to the serial number. I know National sold these machines from 1914 to 1930. Let me know if you have any questions about your new treasure!! I also have a video showing a little about threading and using the Two-Spool machine on YouTube. ENJOY!! TreadleToes (Becky L)

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  3. Hi Becky, Are you still catalogueing Two Spool machines? I just obtained my first and if you are still recording them, I will send you the serial, nuances, etc.
    Cheers!
    Scott

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    1. Hi Scott--Yes, please do send the info on your Two Spool!! Congrats on getting yours!! :-)

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  4. Hello
    I've an National Sewing machine co. Eldredge Two Spool in great shape. Are you still collecting the info?
    Serial no. H8293, old spool winder, no. 1 canister, straight face plate threaded,
    Swivel bed plate. It's in a Damascus Grand treadle base and it fits perfectly. If you need further info/pics please contact me.
    Thanks for this awesome site.

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  5. Hello, I have a old graybar sewing machine that I know nothing about. I was wondering if you could help me. The patent # is 1321209

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    1. Sorry...I can't help you with a standard Graybar machine. Just have info on the Two Spools. You might checkout the National Sewing Machine group on Yahoo Groups for help.

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  6. Hi Becky, I have an Eldredge Two Spool serial number H57095. The manual is dated 10 '25 on the outside, and 6-26 on the inside. It is electric and they glued in a front page with instructions on using the motor and foot pedal. The thread guide is 45°, can type 3, the legs are set back, it came in a table, and has the little flipper to engage motor for bobbin winder. The decals are beautiful! My only problem is the motor was shot, and finding a replacement has been a nightmare! Since the motor shaft rides on the handwheel (with tires), the motor has to turn clockwise, except the only motors I can find turn CCW as they are meant to run with a belt. Can't wait to figure that part out so I can actually sew!! Thanks for keeping track of these unusual beauties!

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    1. Thanks for the info Melinda! Does your machine actually have "Eldredge Two Spool" on the decal badge, or is it "National Two Spool"? The Eldredge decal badge is usually found on the machine made earlier than yours. I don't have any extra motors myself, but I did find a clockwise motor & controller for sale on eBay. You might look there.

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  7. I just purchased an eldredge two spool treadle serial # H2273 made by national in belvidere Il pivot plate, canister 1 is there any way you can give me an approx. Date of mfg.if you need any more info let me know

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    1. Congrats on your nice find!! From what little information I've been able to gather, we know these machines were sold from early 1914 to late 1930. So, guessing from the low number of your serial #, I would say yours is probably somewhere between 1914-15. Would love to see photos of your new gem!! Feel free to ask questions if you run into problems with your new toy.

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  8. Thanks for the info. Glad I found your site. How can I send you pictures? So excited about my treasure Tamara

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  10. If you are still cataloging I have come by a National Two Spool treadle. It has the original cam, a gorgeous burl case, and is one of the later models. My grandmother told me it was from around 1930, her grandmother's. The cam is the later style. I am setting to restoring it, but so far cannot locate the serial number in order to be able to know what sort of belt I'll need. The slide plate is of the later style as well, and has imprinting on it, but it's heavily corroded/rusted. I've been working all afternoon to remove the build up, but still can't locate the number on it. The upper portion of the plate seems to contain patent info and dates. The lower half from what little I've uncovered seems to list fabric types and suggestions for settings and needles.
    Am I looking in the right spot for the serial number? Thank you for your help.

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    1. Hi Oliver! Congrats on getting your GGrandmother's Two Spool!!! Lucky you! The serial number should be found on a little brass plate near the front right-side of the machine base. It's usually to the left of the stitch-length lever on the front right-side of the base. Hope that helps can find it!

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  11. Fantastic!
    Thank you so much for your help! I looked and could not find a brass plate. I got out the baby toothbrush once more and began brushing in that general area. Finally, I found a raised oval, but could not detect any numbers. After using a soft rag and a dab of water, and staying only on the oval, I finally found H27829. Now, to find out what belt to order, and from where. And, to continue cleaning her up. I am excited!

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    1. Interesting Oliver. That serial number puts your machine in with some of the earlier models. Can you see a name across the top bar of the machine? Does it say Eldredge Two Spool or National Two Spool, or what?

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    1. Are you certain of the serial number you see on that plate? I would love to see a photo of that serial number plate to verify what you are seeing. The number is much earlier than other machines in my records that have "National Two Spool" on them. If the plate is still hard to see, you might try cleaning it with a little acetone (fingernail polish remover) on a Q-Tip to clean more grime off it. DO NOT USE ACETONE ON THE MAIN FINISH--ONLY ON SILVER OR BRASS PARTS.

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    2. I somehow missed this post. I'll do that now. Thanks for the help.

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    3. The acetone helped to clarify without a doubt the above serial number.

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    4. The slide plate is not the pivot style, but the slide out. And, the cam has the ledge on the bottom.

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    5. Okay...serial no. is what it is then. I'll be interested to see the photos of the machine on your Mom's blog when she gets that up. It is an early National badged model.
      So, to summerize, can style is #3, cover plate is the slide type. I'll add your machine to the database. Thanks!

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    6. Sorry, I should have clarified. This is definitely Oliver's mom. It was a family blog just had my son's name listed and never changed it. :) I can email pics over if you'd like. My grandmother had written and taped a note on the inside of the cabinet tray saying it belonged to her grandmother, and was from around 1930. Let me know email if you'd like the pics. Thanks again for all your help and time. -Laurie

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    7. No problem. I'll just wait for pics on the blog. I don't want to post my email addy here and get hit by the spammers. They hunt you down everywhere. Thanks!

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  13. I'm documenting my journey through this on my Instagram feed if you'd like the link to follow.
    Thanks, Oliver's mom, Laurie :)

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    1. Yes, Oliver's Mom!! Would love to see it, but I don't use Instagram. :-( How can I see it?

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    2. You can sign up for IG with just an email. You can view it from the app directly on your phone, or, pull it up on your home computer. My IG feed is listed under JustJollyLife.
      I also plan to blog the process of the restoration on my other blog, justjollylife.com. I took a bunch of before pictures yesterday and hope to have them up over the next day or so. But, I put quick phone pics up on IG as I go along. :)

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    3. I'll wait for your blog posts. I don't want to signup for IG. Old fogy here. ;-) Great that you are documenting the cleanup of this family machine!! FUN!!

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  14. Good Afternoon! I have a National 2 Spool machine Serial # H57445. My canister is the #3. My cabinet is totally different than any I've seen, I'm not sure how to post pictures here, but if you'll tell me I'll gladly attempt it! Sheila

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    1. Thanks Sheila--I'll add your info to the database. If you have a Flickr account, you could put a link to a photo of your cabinet in your post. https://www.flickr.com/photos/treadletoes/8050900668/in/album-72157631682930854/

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  15. Hello!
    H29915
    Eldredge
    Can 3
    Face plate loop guide- horizontal
    Cover plate-slide
    Hook-2
    Winder- 1
    Base leg-set back

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  16. Hello, I have a two spool sewing machine manufactured by RK HOHMANN patents from 1911-1913. I believe ut was made by The model number is H73243, can you tell me where I can get more information and the value? The slide plate shows patentdates: August 8, 1911, October 31, 1911. November 27, 1911 and September 16, 1913.

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  17. Laurie--Values are very difficult to estimate on antique & vintage machines due to the number of variables involved. Condition is everything. Seems recent prices vary from $50-$250 depending on condition.
    Information is limited. Since you found my blog, I assume you ran an online search. What you found online is just about all the information there is available.
    The serial number of your machine indicates it is a later model probably made in the late 1920's to early 1930's.

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  18. I am almost in tears! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all this information you've given us! If you'd like I will add my info. I'm so excited!!! I brought my National two spools treadle home about 6 months ago. She's not in the best of shape but because of you pictures and explanations I know that I have the right canister for the machine! Yay!! My problem though is that it won't make a full rotation. I'm hoping it's the grime and the hardened grease that's making it not work.. anyway.. here's her info:

    serial: H31508
    badge: unknown
    can: 3
    faceplate: horizontal
    cover plate: slide (1911-1913)
    winder: older (plain w/ no gizmo on it)
    leg: set back

    She's in a her own cabinet.(chain) not in the best of shape but not too bad. I can send pic's if you'd like.

    Thank you again for all this info and your video's.. I've learned so much from you. =]

    p.s.- If anyone would know why it won't do a full rotation please let me know.

    sudiemay



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